TUCKER CARLSON: Open race hate forms much of MSNBC’s substance. What are the stories you’re talking about?
STEVEN JOHNSON: Well, let’s take a look at the stories. There’s a story about whether it’s legal or not to kill in Yemen, which is a serious issue. The President, as usual, was in Texas, making fun of Mitt Romney and saying, “My job is just to be the president, and I don’t go to the gym.”
Then, there’s a story about the Supreme Court’s decision to make same-sex marriage legal in the state of Indiana.
And then, let’s talk about the story of a white police officer in New York City who was acquitted of manslaughter in the shooting death of a Brooklyn teenager. While his partner, a black police officer, was charged with murder.
CARLSON: So what’s really going on here? Are you just trying to get in on the new race story? Or is this about real news, like the trial of Officer Daniel Pantaleo?
JOHNSON: No, these are real stories. The Supreme Court decision last week was about the constitutionality of the federal Defense of Marriage Act.
What I mean by real, I mean not just partisan political stories. What this country needs is what I call a “real story.” We need stories that don’t end in politics, that don’t end in the news about what you could do to the President’s agenda, and that don’t end in a trial.
And there have been too many of these kinds of stories that have come out of the news these days.
CARLSON: There are, you make an excellent point. These stories come out of the news every day, don’t they?
JOHNSON: Yes, they do. And, you know, if President Obama wants to see them, we would be happy to show them to him.
CARLSON: A real story. Steven Johnson, thank you so much for being with us on “Outnumbered.”